Ray Smith thoughts on Agnostics in AA
|::From The Serenity Bible by Robert Helmfelt:
"We may start as agnostics. We may then come to view the group or the recovery process as our Higher Power, looking to other people for strength. Gradually, we accept a vague notion of God, which grows to a more specific monotheistic God. Eventually we come to know the One True God. Unless we are growing spiritually in recovery, we are going backwards."
::Answer from Ray Smith
This is one of the best descriptions of the
religious nature of the program that I've seen. A "Higher Power",
always capitalized in AA literature, is God with training wheels.
Something to get you into the habit of praying and when your life
starts getting better, you are to believe that it came from prayer
and letting God into your life rather than the fact that you've quit
drinking for awhile. Brainwashing 101. Read your 12 & 12. In Step
Two atheists and agnostics are called belligerent, savage, defiant;
it is said that they 'worship' science, that they are 'too smart for
their own good', that all this was merely an 'ego-feeding'
proposition. It gives a play-by-play description on how a sponsor
goes about CONVERTING his charges to belief in the God of AA. And
no, the God of AA, is not the Christian God I grew up with or
studied in Bible school, but I'd prefer not to get into a lengthy
theological debate here. I would cite a lack of Free Will, expecting
miracles on demand, the idea that God cannot cure alcoholism only
arrest it on a daily basis, the involvement of Bill & Dr. Bob with
spiritualism, but there are Christians on the internet that argue
objections from a Christian perspective better than me.
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